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Abortion by EN70 Abortion by EN70
Social Poster about abortion issue

My statement about abortion:

I dont like that abortion became "usual" thing.
I accept it in some situations. It is even neccessery sometimes.
Choice is for mothers.

However treating it as a "eraser" will increase relativism and egoism.
Futher more, relativism will bring that there will be more bad things treat as a good




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Given 2006-09-16
This is a relatively new deviant and I'd like to encourage him to show more of his work here on dA. Abortion by ~EN70 is one powerful design with a strong message. Imagine you're considering abortion and you see this poster on the street or train, wouldn't it make you think twice? This is what design is about, this is what made commercial design popular, the ability to communicate strong controversial messages. Simple, effective, nice use of shapes and contrast of colour and very iconic. So much to say, so little time. ( Featured by depthskins )
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Voltex12345 Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i accept, condone and even encourage abortion should the mother choose (if in her right mind as well)
because if you're not ready to take responsability and care for a tiny human being that lives simply to wake you up, demand attntion, constant care, cleaning and feeding, and then some, then don't keep the fetus.
just don't.
no matter what bully, book or biggot may say or pressure for otherwise.
and we all know orphanages are not the best place for a baby to be raised in.
also the father never has a say in this, ever. it's the woman who has to suffer though the hardship of birth and that can even potentially die from doing so.
it's not something he can demand of her.

on the other hand, yes.
as much as this image seems to suggest otherwise, i firmly agree with the description that we cannot see this as a "usual thing".
a young woman who has 7 abortions in 6 months should seriously learn what contraceptives are for and should have their abortion price increassed per abortion. if it's such a "luxury"
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Clolline Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Who has the right to take somebody else's life? Soldiers? Policemen? The Secret Service even? Even though it's small, it's important. Even if you don't consider it human, it will be. I argued with my friends today over this topic. I don't regret it.
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Voltex12345 Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
fair enough...
but don't pressure, force or instil guilt on any woman who chooses to abort.
it's their choice, their body, their burden to bare, not the father's, not the doctors, not the familly members, not yours.
a woman suffers a lot through birth and can even potentially die from said event.
only to have to devote her life to a child that she might not even be mentally, economically or phisically capable of taking care.
it takes a lot out of a person to take care of a tiny human being.

also there's a flaw in your logic tho.
a sperm is not a human being, it will be? no... it CAN eventually be.
an egg is not a human being, it will be? no... it CAN eventually be.
a fetus is not a human being, it will be? no... it CAN eventually be.
only one sperm survives to fertilize.
not every egg makes it that far up to survive and cause pregnancy.
not all fetuses survive and meet their end with a simple miscarriage.
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Clolline Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
You are correct in stating that it is the WOMAN'S CHOICE. Although it is HER body, whether she likes it or not, through her own choice (except in cases of rape) there is now life inside of her.  I know thing just happen, but maybe if she can't take care of a child, she should consider not fooling around too much sexually, or even get some protection. Pregnancies ARE preventable without having to resort to abortion. With the sperm and egg thing.... those two things, independent of each other, will not grow into anything. Plus, there's not a flaw in my logic, I never talked about the egg or the sperm, only implied the growing product of those two combined. I believe that once the egg and sperm combine, it is a legitimate human being. Because it's not dead, it's not any other kind of animal and it's GROWING. Human beings GROW throughout their lives. I never even mentioned anything about pressuring, forcing or instilling guilt on anybody either.  Also, medical technology has made vast improvements over the course of a century or two. I'd say that it's safer to give birth to a child now than it has ever been. Ever.
Now, unfortunate events do happen. C'est vie.
Any how, thanks for a different point of view and the time you took to read my comment and respond to it!
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Voltex12345 Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
no no it's quite fine, i'm very sorry for my latent reply.
you are quite civil and pleasant to hear from, and i thank you back for considering my opinions with open arms, as i will do yours =)
(or will at least try XD)

ok let me make my point of view clear first and foremost.
i have a more middle standard on this.
i am not completely against Abortion, but nor am i glorifying it's mention, and that it's ok all the time every time.
no. this is a very delicate and complex issue, in which my opinion differs in accordance to the context and situation.
i do tend to favor the Abortion option if not for certain cases.

with that in mind:
i completely agree with you that even though it's her body, if you're not ready to take full responsibility for a tiny, incomplete human being, that will have a lot coming his or her way for the rest of your life, then i do suggest that you either abstain from sex or practice sex responsibly and carefully with the use of contraceptives and or birth control.
in case of rape or ignorance or manipulation or accident is what i'd suppose.
i feel it is best not to force this decision to keep the baby on someone who got pregnant by accident, it can have disastrous results on both the child and parents of various kinds that will make them all miserable.
adoption is also considerable. =3

i actually disagree here... i think we should focus more on the baby already inside of the womb.
i'm not sure if you and i are that familiar with our own anatomy but even when the egg is indeed fertilized or combined with said sperm, it still takes up from 2 to 6 or weeks for the egg to reach the womb and pregnancy to begin, and not many, much less every egg MAKES it that far, and they are in fact, Fertilized eggs. most of the eggs or fertilized eggs are often flushed and washed away during "those delightful few days she has" (yeah that's another treat for the galls) XD
so basically it's like we just called every woman who has had more than one period a serial killer.
O_O
MOST eggs end up on sanitary napkins and they are in fact, Fertilized eggs.
so this is where i really should just say "we can't save everyone".
and well the Egg is an empty incubator for the sperm to grow in, it also carries the other half of the DNA from the woman's side, but it's not sentient.
spermatozoa are indeed alive and potentially human if given the right resources, they have a nervous branch with a tail, they also carry DNA information with them.
but only one, in hundreds of millions survives the travel TO the egg and successfully penetrates it.
and if not?
masturbation?
male masturbation?
here's a guy with his jockey shorts full of Vinnies and Debbies and nobody's saying a word to the guy?
Not every ejaculation deserves a name or four hundred thousand.
so again...  i think we should focus more on the baby already inside of the womb.
i feel this one could go around in circles. XD

ooooooooh... ._.
it was implied.... sorry.... i must have missed that.
i'm terrible i know i'm sorry =_='
it's very interesting that you look at it that way, "it's not another animal, it's alive, MUST be human".
well i guess so, but as pretty words as those are it is still one with the mother, i tend to look at it as a pre-human, it simply cannot survive without the umbilical cord, it is yet to take form.
and it will most likely easily die by mere natural causes, as i implied slightly earlier on my comment.
it's not sentient, it does not have a consciousness, it does not even have a form of it's own yet.
various are even meant to die out prematurely.
(well this could be argued that trees also don't have sentience or consciousness or nerves but that they are still alive and well but but that is a very different case that does not apply to this)

AH! good! 83
love to hear that!
it's very good to know you do not pressure anyone.
i didn't say you did, i was just suggesting you not to do it XD
just a suggestion, not an implication not an order, just a... "it would be nice if you would not do that" though not saying that you even did.... (i am sinking myself deeper here :X)

Also true! =3
technology has advanced quite ahead to help with this. but it can also go the other way around.
Technology has lead us to various dead ends and some solutions become more of risks and problems than anything else.
such as the anesthesia, to prevent the woman from feeling pain during childbirth that ALSO so happens to have about a 65% chance of killing the baby. my comment's too big by now to come up with more examples i hope this one suffices. with this point we're at stalemate XD
we really can't move forward from technology, it has it's perks, it has it's downsides.
let's agree and shake to that.

yes unfortunate things do happen, i am one to usually easily tackle points of view with cold hard truths rather than sugarcoating things, giving them more importance than they are, i value truth more than i do what's pretty ........  (this also differ from situation to situation and context XD)

and very well then =3
thank you so much for responding to me, i took great privilege at looking at your point of views and considering them, i hope i wasn't too harsh myself which i unintentionally tend to be, and thank you for reading this huge pile of black text on gray screen paper XD
cheers
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Videogeek95 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2014
There's a FLAW in YOUR logic...

"a fetus is not a human being"

I pity you...

The fetus IS the baby... (Jackass)

At what point does The Fetus become the baby? The 3rd trimester?

You obviously can't kill it then...
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Voltex12345 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
hmm?
when did i say that?
ooooh no you misinterpret it
or maybe i wasn't clear...
(so yeah there was a flaw XD)

i was saying that at this point. it's potentially a human being.
just like the other 2.
there's still the fact that at any given moment, the miscarriage can ocurr
there are also siamese twins
they are not formed. they are under development.
it barely has consciousness of it's own.
a human "to be" so to speak.
i don't give credit for unfinished work
what my point was originally tho, (and completely flew by you) was that i vaue the pregnant woman more than i value the fetus.
as i said

"don't pressure, force or instil guilt on any woman who chooses to abort. EVEN IF IT'S YOUR WIFE.
it's their choice, their body, their burden to bare, not the father's, not the doctors, not the familly members, not yours.
a woman suffers a lot through birth and can even potentially die from said event.
only to have to devote her life to a child that she might not even be mentally, economically or phisically capable of taking care.
it takes a lot out of a person to take care of a tiny human being."
keep those words in mind alright?
i am one to calculate, I weigh my options (and mine alone might i add), i don't believe in magic or luck. I do the math and i don't gamble.
so it's preferable in my eyes that she'd abort should she be uncapable of taking care of the baby, or so much as have her choice.
otherwise, the stagering result will be 2 or more lives ruined and or dead anyway.

oh and please let's not.... start throwing slurrs and "pitty" at each other shall we? (even if i made a mistake here and there, as did you)
it's beneath us both.
don't pitty me for having a different view.
i could say i pitty you for prefering to torture women for the sake of a fetus.
or for your lack of knowledge of how a womb works.
but i don't alright?
it's plain unneccessary and uncalled for.
let's use our minds not our emotions.
i'm just here to compare views and learn and teach.
there's no need for any violent wording.
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Videogeek95 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2014
Alright... I'll use my mind...

Human beings are the only creatures in existence to use Abortion... (Real Talk Moment: Try to point out the obvious fact that animals haven't developed medicine, or any statement similar. I dare you.) Human beings are also the only creatures in existence to have sex for recreation...

Animals only have Sex to Procreate... (Real Talk Moment: And don't give me any bull that: "The only reason Animals don't have sex for recreation is because they're not built to have it without getting tired or exhausted.")

If scientists insist that Humans are Animals themselves, then that means Sex = Procreation...

IF a woman wants to have sex with a man who ISN'T her permanently established mate... (Real Talk Moment: Bring up the fact that Humans are the only creatures to use a stupidly symbolic thing like Marriage. Swans mate for life, which OBVIOUSLY means by Scientist logic... If Swans were "Evolved" enough... They TOO would OBVIOUSLY eventually create their own form of Marriage.) She NEEDS to be aware that Children are a HUGE possibility... If she is aware and STILL wishes to proceed... She NEEDS to be SMART and ESTABLISH a way to PREVENT childbirth...

Rape: Not. An. Excuse. Why? How many forms of interactions are out there that can be classified as rape? Answer: Enough that a Fully consenting man and a Fully consenting woman are capable of Raping each other without either party realizing they're even doing it. Fact.

Also: Women are just as capable as Raping Men... And do you have sympathy for THOSE women?...

The Fetus. IS a Human Being. It's NOT capable of BECOMING human. It already IS. I believe this what academics and scientists would call a LIFE STATE. You know as in. Infant State: Child State: Adolescent State: Adult State:... Fetus State:

If the Fetus is NOT a human... How are you still capable of killing it?... The way you describe a Fetus is the same way someone would describe a Plant... And Yet...

I care more about the Baby NOT getting a chance to live... Because I see the women in TODAY'S Day and AGE... And do you know what I see...?

I see a drunken night... I see a stupid kid going too fast too soon... I see someone who only cares about sex... I see A LOT of things BEFORE I EVER consider rape...

Therefore... Why should you take away something's chance at life... Because she doesn't want to come out of her own little bubble and grow up?...

Look... I understand fully the kind of situation you're describing and why you are for abortion... However... I realize FULLY... That the situation you defend... Is a MINORITY situation... It is LESS likely too happen than what you would think it would... The situations I described are FAR more likely to happen than what you defend...

"I find those who are for abortion, are already born" - Ronald Reagan.
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Voltex12345 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i don't do dares.

we are animals, true, but we don't live in a jungle, not everything natural is good, not everything unnetural is bad.
what's keeping us from shitting in the middle of  the street then?

you don't know if Swans would. no one does, no matter how "obvious" it was, and even if they did, the logic here is disconected. it doesn't speak of abortion.

we have contraceptives. let me remind you of that.
and no, instincts are that sex "feels good" without explanation that "baby will emerge" for animals.
some know it, some don't.
not every animal species is the same, in various for example, sexual intercourse is a way to show dominance even among males (yes homosexual intercorse)
go ahead, check dolphins, or bonobos, giraffes, and a whole other say of animals
some even masturbate! after that, see if that's still your opinion.
also an eagle is an eagle, a pig is a pig
it's not because eagles can fly that pigs can.
it's not because swans stay a whole life time together, that other species will
namely us for example, i see humans as flexible really. to each their own way.
i request you not to compare animals to prove your points. it really can't be compared.
we're not living in a jungle like environment.

Rape is not an excuse. EVER
oh wait... dunno what you meant by that
i meant it's not an excuse to pressure someone to keep the baby.
.... i don't follow your "fact" what are you trying to say with that?
seriously don't take it the wrong way, i just didn't understand.
it was a forced act upon him or her against their will.
i value the woman who's pregnant resulted of rape's well being rather than the undeveloped fetus.
she's the one who's gonna go through it all. as for the man, same can be said. we can't force the responsability on him either.
we can't save everyone, and a fetus bares no consciousness,
oh i can kill a spermatzoon easilly, millions of them in fact, every day.
not every ejaculation deserves a name.
it's a living, swiming couple of cells, as well as an egg being a whole lot of cells, a Fetus more so, a human, even more so, and so on...
my standards on life are, let's say... complicated. let's just say i see life as overrated.
i believe suffering is what comes more into question.

...
well as someone who's virginity was taken as a result of emotional manipulation, I DON'T have sympathy for those women. i said Rape, not specifically rape on women by a man.
you're right on that one tho. i wish there was a law of sorts to cover this up as well. the man would also be the unwilling father of someone.
why it doesn't exist? i dunno

So is a Spermazoon, so is an egg, so is bacterea. same argument here.
A Feus is PART human being. undeveloped, it doesn't even have enough to "BE" on it's own.
much like your nose is part human, a foot is a live so to speak.
until developed, it's still a part of the mother.

what you see is what you see.
what is is what is.
they don't always have to be the same thing.
and if i were to entertain your point.
what's to say that i look at a fetus and i see someone who will grow up to be on a drunken night... a stupid kid going too fast too soon... someone who only cares about sex... A LOT of things, and or might grow up to be a rapist...

don't say that like that.
don't dismiss my point simply because it's in the majority or minority
you can't just STATE something and say it's a fact, without putting in evidence

and you know what?
there's something i sympathese with here, someone getting an aborton once or twice, considering the consequences, i can understand.
now... someone getting an abortion 17 times in 6 months?
no, i disagree. it's abuse. remember contraceptives?
once i proposed something that every time one goes trough an abortion, each time it the price raises drastically.
if it's such a luxury, then pay some more each time.

augh FUCK Ronald Reagan. and his lying, rich royal religioous ass.
if i were you i wouldn't get moral support from politicians.
from days of old or recently modern ones
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Videogeek95 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2014
Just because RAPE is an element to the pregnancy does NOT mean it's okay to forgive abortion... That is my point... There are TOO MANY actions that can be CLASSIFIED as rape... That Two consenting adults are apparently able to rape each other without EITHER realizing they're even doing it... Meaning claiming rape as enough reason to go through with abortion is bullshit...

You're going to think me a huge ignoramus for this... But I truly believe that Sometimes... Life is just hard... And those who choose to suffer and fight through those hardships come out better for it...

"what's to say that i look at a fetus and i see someone who will grow up to be on a drunken night... a stupid kid going too fast too soon... someone who only cares about sex... A LOT of things, and or might grow up to be a rapist..."

I'd say that if you actually tried something called "RAISING THE GODDAMN KID LIKE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO" they WOULDN'T become any of those things...

"Oh right... That's called effort and you obviously wouldn't put forth anything like that with something as trivial as your kid... I mean come on... You'll kill them before they're even born if you don't want them early enough..."

Do YOU see how IGNORANT I could be if I wanted to? Don't test me...

"don't say that like that.
don't dismiss my point simply because it's in the majority or minority
you can't just STATE something and say it's a fact, without putting in evidence"

In Colorado recently, a 6 year old was placed under sexual harassment charges... If something as stupid as that is able to happen... I can dismiss your point as much as I want because YEAH it IS fact...

I WILL dismiss it as much as I want because if "Numbers" say that a baby will not last long after childbirth... You'll believe it instantly and refuse to think otherwise... Until of course that kid grows up to be in their 20's...

You REALLY need to try practicing what you preach... Oops... Sorry... I forgot you don't believe Preach to be a proper word in your vocabulary... You know... Given it's associations and all...

If swans don't mate for life... Why are they associated with love?... Where else would people get the idea?... I thought scientists were supposed to have STUDIED all the species at one point or another... Or at least know enough to know the mating habits of all the known animals...

No a fetus IS human... You really need to work on that... (I'm not changing my belief)

"my standards on life are, let's say... complicated. let's just say i see life as overrated." Then kill yourself... No I'm serious... If you value life so little and truly view it as overrated... I don't want you wasting valuable resources for someone who could actually use them... Just die... Fuck you, you useless waste of space... Good fucking riddance...

Also... Again... Notice how you're already born... Yet you're defending abortion... Just saying...

If you've read this far through my comment... You probably have a decent idea of what my "Beliefs" are by now and that YES, I DO in fact even HAVE beliefs... If you try saying anything about the subject then don't EVEN bother writing a reply because it's obvious neither of us are going to be changing either of our beliefs...
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