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Social Poster about abortion issue

My statement about abortion:

I dont like that abortion became "usual" thing.
I accept it in some situations. It is even neccessery sometimes.
Choice is for mothers.

However treating it as a "eraser" will increase relativism and egoism.
Futher more, relativism will bring that there will be more bad things treat as a good




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This is a relatively new deviant and I'd like to encourage him to show more of his work here on dA. Abortion by ~EN70 is one powerful design with a strong message. Imagine you're considering abortion and you see this poster on the street or train, wouldn't it make you think twice? This is what design is about, this is what made commercial design popular, the ability to communicate strong controversial messages. Simple, effective, nice use of shapes and contrast of colour and very iconic. So much to say, so little time. ( Featured by `depthskins )
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~Nightsky123 6 days ago  Student Writer
Very awesome! I love it!

My oppinion of abortion is that its the mothers choice. No one needs to get involved whether she needs to or not :3

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~SeersSword May 14, 2012   General Artist
I just watched "Blood Money". I have never had an abortion and I already previously knew I would NEVER allow my arms to be emptied by a scalpel under any circumstance. But one story about... and an incinerator. There is bile in the back of my throat and I shall not sleep tonight, I think. I now fully understand the term I use so often for the people who "perform" these silent little executions... butcher.

I still don't regret watching it though. I just wish I knew how to protect people from themselves.....

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~Ask-War 6 days ago  New member
I suggest actually doing two things. One being visit a crap hole clinic, one you find in a third world country or slum. Secondly visit an OBGYN clinic. See the differences.

"I just wish I knew how to protect people from themselves....." That's one arrogant statement.

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~SeersSword 5 days ago   General Artist
"That's one arrogant statement."
It's just a wish. Apparently you missed that.

OBGYN's are supposed to deliver babies and care for women's feminine needs, not cut into her and bereave her of her child. "I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion." Hippocratic Oath

No one NEEDS to kill another person who has not provoked self-defense or the defense of others (and if you think one would need to defend oneself against an unborn infant I don't know where your logic comes from). Please get in touch with nature again - preferably human.

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~Ask-War 5 days ago  New member
The desire to save people from themselves is an arrogant desire, and since you stated it, it became an arrogant statement.

They take care of a womans reproductive needs, that includes abortions, pap smears, cancer screenings etc.
The tidbit you added in there from the oath is from the original one. As in the one that mentions mythology.
"I swear by Apollo, the healer, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea, and I take to witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to my ability and my judgment, the following Oath and agreement:
To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art; to live in common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods with him; To look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach them this art; and that by my teaching, I will impart a knowledge of this art to my own sons, and to my teacher's sons, and to disciples bound by an indenture and oath according to the medical laws, and no others.
I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.
I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest any such counsel; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.
But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts.
I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners, specialists in this art.
In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or with men, be they free or slaves.
All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.
If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art, respected by all humanity and in all times; but if I swerve from it or violate it, may the reverse be my life."

The modern oath is here "I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:
I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.
I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.
I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.
I will not be ashamed to say "I know not", nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.
I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given to me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.
I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.
I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.
I will remember that I remain a member of society with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.
If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, be respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help."

The modern one, which is used today, makes no mention of abortion. Good try, but not quite good enough.

That isn't for you to decide. No human has the right to use another persons body without their explicit consent. Nobody, not you, me, a rapist, a husband or a fetus. If a fetus is not wanted, then it is using her body, her blood and nutrients without her consent. That can harm her, so it could be self defense.

Oh I love human nature. Compassion and aggression. I love both. Thing is, I disassociated myself from the issues and I can see it with logic. Looking at issues with morals or personal views only makes you tunnel visioned, biased.

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~Hawkheart29 May 12, 2012  New member
I agree. I don't like the idea of abortion because I know some women will use it to take the easy way out instead of facing the consquences. (I am female and this is my oppion; don't hate me for it)

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~Ask-War 6 days ago  New member
I find the idea of pregnancy as a "consequence" to be interesting. An undesired consequence is a negative consequence, and a negative consequence is a punishment. So, by this logic, pregnancy is a punishment. And yet, I keep hearing that pregnancy is beautiful? Contradictory in my eyes.

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~Hawkheart29 5 days ago  New member
We learn from the consequnces of our actions and most of the time we become better people after facing them. Back when abortion was something done in the backs of alleys and a great risk of the mother's life, most girls wouldn't choose it. They would either keep or give up the baby upon birth. If they kept their child, they'd be looked down upon, but they would learn about responsablity as well as love (their love for their child and their child's for them). If they gave up the child they would forever carry a dirty little secret inside of their heart and they would always know that out in the world somewhere, experiancing God-knows-what, was their own flesh and blood. No doubt they lost more than a little sleep over that thought.
That's what I ment by consequences. No matter their choice, their world would change significantly. Their decisions were made after much thought; plus they were carrying the child during this period of contamplation and were conected to their baby: feeling it kick its legs or it responding to the sound of its mother's voice. Unlike women today, who get rid of their guilt by saying "it wasn't alive", these woman were made very much aware of the fact that the thing inside of them was alive. Do you see where I'm comming from now?

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~Ask-War 5 days ago  New member
"We learn from the consequnces of our actions and most of the time we become better people after facing them." What do you base this statement off of?

"Back when abortion was something done in the backs of alleys and a great risk of the mother's life, most girls wouldn't choose it." You really have no idea do you? Illegal abortions in the United States killed thousands every year. It made thousands more infertile. Close to a million were injured or received infections.

"f they kept their child, they'd be looked down upon, but they would learn about responsablity as well as love (their love for their child and their child's for them)." Or contempt, rage and distress.

" No doubt they lost more than a little sleep over that thought." Depends on the person. Also, keeping the kid could also result in "God knows what", such as abuse, rape, neglect or murder.

No, I really don't. You live in a fantasy world where a woman is far more likely to love an unwanted baby and to despise it. A world where you obviously don't know what happens when abortion was illegal. Though, I do agree that women who say it isn't alive are pretty stupid. It's very much alive.

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Mood: Miserable ~Hawkheart29 5 days ago  New member
....look I didn't join DA so I could argue politics, I joined so I could share and enjoy art. Oh, and about the whole "fantasy world" comment? That hurt. A lot. I can't even begin to discribe how it made me feel. I happen to like my fantasies and I'm not hurting anyone with them, so why don't you just go find some other innocent thinker and scold them for trying to believe in the better side of humanity and leave me and my dreams alone!


And now I'm so fustrated I'm starting to cry. Thanks alot.

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